The First Drafts of The Plaza Are Here!

9 November 2010

What everyone has nervously been waiting for is here. When you click on each image a larger detailed version will appear so you can really get a good look at it. Like before, we encourage everyone to leave any feedback or ideas you have. Grindline is suppose to be keeping an eye on the comments section for this post, so here is your chance to have your thoughts heard.

The Parkersburg Skate Plaza Foundation - First Drafts of The Skate Plaza

The Parkersburg Skate Plaza Foundation - First Drafts of The Skate Plaza

The Parkersburg Skate Plaza Foundation - First Drafts of The Skate Plaza

The Parkersburg Skate Plaza Foundation - First Drafts of The Skate Plaza

The Parkersburg Skate Plaza Foundation - First Drafts of The Skate Plaza

The Parkersburg Skate Plaza Foundation - First Drafts of The Skate Plaza

The Parkersburg Skate Plaza Foundation - First Drafts of The Skate Plaza

The Parkersburg Skate Plaza Foundation - First Drafts of The Skate Plaza

The Parkersburg Skate Plaza Foundation - First Drafts of The Skate Plaza

The Parkersburg Skate Plaza Foundation - First Drafts of The Skate Plaza

The Parkersburg Skate Plaza Foundation - First Drafts of The Skate Plaza

  • Washburn - Tuesday, November 9th, 2010 - 8:31 pm

    AHH it looks really fun

  • Eric Hapney - Tuesday, November 9th, 2010 - 10:12 pm

    yea that looks awesome a curved wall ride around the curved box with slopes that lead up the wall on each side of the box would be amazing

  • Jon Stalnaker - Wednesday, November 10th, 2010 - 11:00 am

    What’s the height on this stuff? I’d like to see at least one nice quarterpipe for some of the younger kids to learn on. Maybe take the bank beside the roundwall and turn it into a nice wide quarterpipe with metal coping.

  • Alan (author) - Wednesday, November 10th, 2010 - 11:31 am

    If you look at the last two images, I am assuming those numbers are feet (above the flood plain I think). So the top deck around the pool being 602′ and the deepest end of the pool being 592′ that would mean it is 10′ deep, then there is the 8′ deep end at 594′ and 6′ deep at 596′.

    The top of the deck on the far end and the bank with the three ledges would only 2.5′ tall (which in my personal opinion is way to mellow, each ledge would only be about 1′ tall). It looks like the ledges on the far end would be about 2′ tall, which would make the little bowl quarter pipe there about 4.5′ tall.

    The side quarter pipe with the wave ramp in front of it, I would guess is about 5′ tall. I will post the definite heights when we get them.

  • shirley collins - Wednesday, November 10th, 2010 - 11:40 am

    I thought we were going to have a ramp or a way to get into the bowl without having to drop in. That way the younger kids that have not yet learned to drop in would be able to use it also. I don’t see one in the picture but was sure we had talked about it.
    I like the layout of the rest of it.

    Shirley

  • Jon Stalnaker - Wednesday, November 10th, 2010 - 1:49 pm

    600 feet above flood plain doesn’t seem accurate if the park is going where I think it is? That’s two football fields high and I know that river is way closer than that.

    To Shirley, if Alan is correct that the clover is 6, 8, and 10 ft deep then having a roll-in for those who can’t drop in is more dangerous than helpful. That’d be like having a waterslide into the deep end of a pool for people who can’t swim.

  • Alan (author) - Wednesday, November 10th, 2010 - 2:13 pm

    Yeah I’m not sure where those number are coming from, I’m pretty sure it has something to do with the elevation, and Micah from Grindline had mentioned those were the dimensions for the clover they were looking at.

  • Jon Stalnaker - Wednesday, November 10th, 2010 - 2:17 pm

    Ah yeah, sea level. Very stoked Alan, you’ve done a tremendous job with this. I emailed you at your websites email address, don’t know if that’s still up or not.

  • Micah Shapiro - Wednesday, November 10th, 2010 - 3:41 pm

    To all those that are curious regarding the elevations (602′ 598.5′, etc.), those are elevations above sea level.

  • Worrd - Wednesday, November 10th, 2010 - 6:01 pm

    I think it would be cool to have, instead of a bank to flat bar, just a pole jam coming out of the bank.

  • Matt - Wednesday, November 10th, 2010 - 7:30 pm

    I think everything looks good but the bowl, those clover shaped ones are harder for people who really havent skated that stuff before, hard to keep a flow going, what is the little ledge in the other side bowl? I dont understand it

  • Johnathan - Wednesday, November 10th, 2010 - 7:39 pm

    What are the angels for the “china banks?” Something around 20-30 degrees would be nice.

    Could do without the stair-step thing inside the Horseshoe quarterpipe.

    Don’t go flush with the concrete on the coping please.

    Looks great!!

  • randy - Wednesday, November 10th, 2010 - 8:07 pm

    It looks like this park is mostly for advanced skateboarders and not beginners. And one would assume it would have had some type of separate track for rollerblades. I thought it would be for everyone, not just the advanced boarders. It doesn’t look like it is beginner friendly. just wondering.

  • Ryan - Wednesday, November 10th, 2010 - 8:42 pm

    what are you talkin about? there are how many lower than knee high boxes and rails??? this park is all beginner accept for the bowl

  • Mark Wilson - Wednesday, November 10th, 2010 - 9:32 pm

    i really like is skate park can’t wait to help build with you guys
    in march 2011

  • Eric - Wednesday, November 10th, 2010 - 9:35 pm

    Round coping on some parts of the park would be nice and I agree with Johnathan about not having the coping flush to the concrete.

  • Alan (author) - Wednesday, November 10th, 2010 - 10:00 pm

    I don’t know what it is but I’ve seen a few parks, about 6 inches next to the coping on the deck, it is made out of a different smooth glossy material, or maybe it is just a heavy duty paint, but I think that would help everything slide a lot smoother for rollerbladers and then there wouldn’t be as much of a need for us to wax it, which would make it better for boarders, and then everybody would be happy.

  • Jon Stalnaker - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 9:42 am

    The park has enough variety for every level of skater. I’d like to see the clover be 4′, 6′, 8′ but that’s just because I’m old and don’t want to put forth the effort to try to skate 10′.

  • Alan (author) - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 11:02 am

    lol Jon. I would like to see 4′ somewhere in there also, but I definitely think having the option to skate a 10′ is important also, so when local kids go out of town or to a comp they aren’t seeing a vert wall for the first time and have a bit of experience. Plus there is the 5′ wall on the street course that goes around the wave ramps, which also angles all the way down to 4′, 3′, 2′, 1′, 0′.

    For rollerbladers this park is still heavy on the beginner side, but I’d say the park usage will be 80% or more boarders, so that is reasonable. I’d still like to see one taller and longer ledge somewhere.

  • Jordan Downer - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 11:11 am

    This park looks like a lot of fun for skateboarders of all levels. As a rollerblader, I could see myself getting bored here. It would be nice to see some handrails a little higher off the ground.

  • Alan (author) - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 11:42 am

    I think the handrails going down the stairs are alright, 2′ maybe a little bit low bit that’s okay, less likely to get racked that way.

  • Ryan Mossburg - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 11:59 am

    NO CLOVER BOWL! the street cours looks sick, but in my experience clovers are very boring. we need a bowl that is both easy and fun with good lines, and with clovers you find yourself doing the same old lines, you basically can only go from one pocket to the other. maybe take out one of the hips and make it a flatwall and elongate the pocket adjacent from the flat wall, that would be prett sweet… NO CLOVER PLEASE!

  • Eric Cunningham - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 1:31 pm

    Everything is really cool. I’d really like to see a smaller set for beginners. Six sets are good for middle-leveled skateboarders, but definitely the first set someone is going to do. I’d like to see a three set or something coming down the bank by the bowl. and speaking of the bowl, NNOOOOOO CLOVER PLEASE!!! I love skating bowls, and I do it whenever I can, and honestly, the clover just looks super boring and monotonous. It would be really hard to keep a line going, and there’s honestly just no variety. I don’t like that it starts at 6 feet either, I agree with the others, that there should be a smaller (about 4 foot) section for people who are learning. I’d like to see a different shape with more variety.

  • Johnathan - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 1:31 pm

    I second Ryan’s “NO CLOVER”

    There is one here in Dublin, Ohio (Our nation’s worst skatepark). Try taking a model from an existing skatepark that everyone likes.

    A simple kidney-bean shape has always been a fan favorite across the board with skaters, bikers, and boarders.

  • Johnathan - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 1:34 pm

    Why not just create seperate bowls:

    Beginner Bowl then a bowl for Intermediate to Advanced. Allowing the possibility of transfers from one bowl to another as well as a nother transfer from a bowl to the street course.

  • Casey Hardman - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 1:53 pm

    I am definitely pumped. This is for sure, a step up from the last design. Just a few suggestions Eric and I were talking about a minute ago:

    The bowl seems a bit boring and still takes up quite a bit of room. If maybe they could make a smaller section of the bowl for beginners, that’d be sick. Possibly just make it two bowls, instead of a clover design.

    On the smaller slope by the clover bowl, the other side of the nine set, I think there should be a manual pad coming out of the slope. (Eric should be posting his design on that shortly.) I think that would be really fun.

    The step up gap on the other side from the bowl, in the slope with the rail, I think they should move the gap down the slope a little more and match up the end with the top of the slope. It seems like it would take up the run for the rail, making it harder to hit the rail.

    Hopefully that made sense. :P

  • Eric Cunningham - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 2:38 pm

    I think this could be very easily integrated with this design. It adresses the need for a smaller/beginner set, and a manual pad (which there are none of in the current design).
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  • Jordan Downer - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 2:50 pm

    Grindline needs to go look at the handicap rails at the City Park Pond and recreate them without the pegs. I would consider that a win for the rollerbladers.

  • Alan (author) - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 3:48 pm

    If we end up doing something different with the bowl that would be a possibility Eric, but as it is now that would literally only give you guys 1 or 2 feet of run up.

  • Eric Cunningham - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 5:21 pm

    Yeah, that’s what I was thinking alan, but hopefully we DO do something differently with the bowl.. and it doesn’t look like it would be that hard to tweak the design to make it work out, even with the current design.

  • Alan (author) - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 6:57 pm

    Holy crap, I can’t believe I forgot all about the City Park rail when I wrote this

    http://www.parkersburgskateplaza.org/home/?p=987

    The city park rail was the best spot Parkersburg has ever had. I remember that thing being mobbed by like 15 rollerbladers at a time. I took these bottom two pictures today and stood next to it and I forgot how low that thing was, its crazy, its like a little over knee high on me.

    The Parkersburg Skate Plaza Foundation, Inc - Alan Hughes - City Park Rail 2000

    The Parkersburg Skate Plaza Foundation, Inc - Alan Hughes - City Park Rail 2000

    The Parkersburg Skate Plaza Foundation, Inc - Alan Hughes - City Park Rail 2000

  • Jon Stalnaker - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 8:34 pm

    I skated that clover in Dublin when it was first built and it was one of the worst experiences in my life. This one looks better because of how the waterfalls are (grindline knows what they are doing). I was initally against the clover design and was more pumped on a kidney but I think a nice clover would give the Parkersburg park something to offer outsiders. We don’t need something that can be found in Athens or Marietta or Wheeling, let’s make this park unique and a destination.

  • Jon Stalnaker - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 8:40 pm

    Also, I don’t think there should be a beginner’s bowl at all. Any transition under 4′ is a waste of space.

  • Chase - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 9:04 pm

    Ok the bowl is alot of wasted money I’m sure we can think of a better smaller design or not al all considering Athens, marrieta, and skatetopia are all bowls I think it would be better to just not have one and expand the park

  • Eric Cunningham - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 9:20 pm

    I strongly disagree with Jon. I think that especially since there’s a clover in Dublin, and everybody hates it.. why would it be an attraction to our skatepark? If the basic design has already been proven to be pretty lame, I don’t think we should use it. And also, I think the kidney is actually a great Idea. It’s true that athens and marietta both have bowls, but neither has a kidney-styled enclosed bowl, and both Athens and Marietta are definitely advanced-level skateparks. Marietta really makes me sad how underused it is haha. But it’s not because people don’t want to skate their skatepark, it’s because they CAN’T. Their biggest mistake is that their smallest transition is 6 feet, and I think it would still be a mistake if we did the same.

  • Alan (author) - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 9:23 pm

    I know what you guys mean about how there are already a number of bowl parks around here, but there is a lot to be said for having one in your own back yard that you can skate every single day. When its something you only get to skate every few weeks or months, you never get a chance to really figure out what you are doing and get it dialed. When it’s right here you will have a chance to really get use to it and have fun. Plus there are still a lot of bowl skaters in Parkersburg that would like to have something, and since we can afford to do a bit of both, that is what we are going to do. We want to have a well rounded park that provides a little bit of everything so nobody has to go out of town just to skate.

  • Alan (author) - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 9:25 pm

    Don’t forget about the 5′ quarter on the street course, Eric.

  • Eric Cunningham - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 9:37 pm

    It’s not really a quarterpipe though. I’d actually like if it was haha :P but it’s a pool pocket with a step in it.. still not very beginner-friendly.

  • Eric Cunningham - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 9:48 pm

    I feel like I’m being awfully negative about this though haha. I like a lot of stuff about the park to, and I’m pretty happy with it. I really like the wallride-ledges, the curved box, the flatground gap, the wave, and the bank with all the boxes:the park looks really fun

  • Alan (author) - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 10:18 pm

    I was talking about the one on the side next to the waves.

  • Casey Hardman - Thursday, November 11th, 2010 - 10:35 pm

    I think we could design the bowl to where we could use Eric’s manual pad design. In all honesty, it is not that difficult to do and I’m pretty sure people would dig it. I would skate it. I don’t know how you feel about it Alan, but it’s not a big deal.

  • Washburn - Friday, November 12th, 2010 - 12:16 am

    I was gonna say, the city park rail is pretty fun for skateboarders too; i think it would fun to have something like it in the design. Also it could be cool to take those 2 split ledges right above the bank closest to the bowl and just make them 1 long ledge somewhere else in the park.

  • Eric Cunningham - Friday, November 12th, 2010 - 6:55 am

    Yeah, but the transition included in the wave is completely different. yeah, it’s transition, but it’s not something a kid can really learn how to do tricks on for the first time. I still really like the whole thing though.

  • Jon Stalnaker - Friday, November 12th, 2010 - 8:21 am

    Eric, everyone hates the clover in Dublin because of how it was built. The basic design of a clover isn’t lame, the execution on the one in Dublin is screwed up. In the middle of the clover in Dublin you have the bowl coming to a point, so you basically have a launch ramp into one of the pockets. In this design it looks like you have two waterfalls going to the 8 and 10 ft section so its a nice flow into either the 8′ or 10′ section.

    Check this vid and pay attention to the flat bottom, that’s how this design looks and how the bowl would skate.

    I think your idea of people not using a park because they can’t is completely off base. They don’t use the park because they don’t want to put the time in to learn. If they are new to transition then get in the flat bottom and learn to pump, move onto slash grinds, now start dropping in and ripping. Build a 1/4 for you and your friends to practice on.

  • Jon Stalnaker - Friday, November 12th, 2010 - 8:42 am

    I’m going to make a horrible analogy to hopefully explain myself better. Say we were talking about basketball instead of skateboarding.

    The dublin bowl is like having a basketball court with cracks and no backboard. It’s still a basketball court but its a horribly screwed up one.

    Making the bowl easy for people to learn how to skate is like building all the hoops at 6′ or 8′ high so a little kid can make a basket. We don’t do that because we expect that they’ve learned the basics at home and if a 10′ rim is too high, then they probably need to spend some time elsewhere learning, like on those adjustable hoops you see in people’s driveways.

    Also I dont think the smallest tranny in Marietta is 6 but it’s been awhile. I’m not a fan of their design either but its concrete and close so it’s better than nothing!

  • Alan (author) - Friday, November 12th, 2010 - 8:46 am

    It might help beginners if the shallow end was shaped a bit more oval like so it can be skated back and forth like a mini ramp.

    I would rather have a park that is a little more challenging than my skill level than a park where I can already do everything and will get bored with.

  • Ryan Mossburg - Friday, November 12th, 2010 - 8:53 am

    Ant tranny under 4 IS A waste of space, you street kids will catch up through practice, its intimidating but there is reall no difference between 4 and 6 other than its a little scarier… another bowl is a bad idea, maybe incorporate some smaller trannies into the street cours to give it good flo. NO CLOVER, im sorry they are just boring, i would like a kidney, but i think we can come up with a good original design that will suit all skill levels. if we do get a kidney i say 5 foot shallow with slightly tight trannies and deep end 9 with reagular like straigh to vert trannies, but i would prefer something more imaginative, but not all crazy like eddies other paks.come on who needs 17 hips

  • Ryan Mossburg - Friday, November 12th, 2010 - 8:58 am

    and i agree with you jon, clovers can be fun when done right, my problem is you get caught up in circular lines, they are ok but they get boring fast, a kidney is alot more fun, but i think we can do something good in original, and thats what we should focus on.

  • Ryan Mossburg - Friday, November 12th, 2010 - 8:59 am

    mini ramp secion fo sho

  • Ryan Mossburg - Friday, November 12th, 2010 - 9:01 am

    oh and the handi cap rail would be cool, maybe make it slightly shorter than the real one

  • Ryan Mossburg - Friday, November 12th, 2010 - 9:07 am

    i disagree with you eric also, we do not need any smaller set than a six, you can go hit 30 good 4 sets in your neighborhood, whats the point, if its not big ebough to have a rail there is no point in having it at the park. a six set is begginer level, were skaters if it hurts get up and do it again, c’mon.

  • eric cunningham - Friday, November 12th, 2010 - 9:34 am

    Ryan, I absolutely see what you’re saying, But I still think we need it. The whole point of a skatepark is to have everything skatable in one centralized location. I’m advocating it because It would honestly not be hard AT ALL to put into the design, so Why NOT?

  • Jon Stalnaker - Friday, November 12th, 2010 - 10:00 am

    Clover or kidney, this is going to be rad.

  • Alan (author) - Friday, November 12th, 2010 - 10:15 am

    I don’t think that is a bad idea Eric, but then why do we have all those little 1ft tall ledges going up the bank? If we built a 3 set would you be opposed to making those taller or the little flat ledge on the far end taller and probably less of a manual pad?

  • Ryan Mossburg - Friday, November 12th, 2010 - 11:17 am

    see i would be ok with a 4 as long as there is like a nice mellow long hubba, or a steep bank on the side like the other sets, it would be ok as long as there are other begginer level obstacle incorporated. bye the way I LOVE THE ROUND LEDGE!

  • Ryan Mossburg - Friday, November 12th, 2010 - 11:24 am

    yeah and i agree the ledges need to be more that a foot, and how a bout a flat angle flat hubba/ manny pad, that way its more inventive than just a regular manny pad, the two seperated boxes on top of the bank should be connected and can be used as a regular manny pad, i mean there is already a flat gap…

  • Alan (author) - Friday, November 12th, 2010 - 2:36 pm

    What if we left the bottom ledge 1ft tall for beginners but shorten up the width of it (not the length of the ledge), then the next two up could be 2ft tall each and the top ledge as one solid piece across the entire length of the deck instead of broken into two ledges.

    Then on the other side of this instead of a flat deck, it slowly angles all the way down and on one side a long mellow handicap rail like the city park rail and then something like Eric Cunningham is talking about with the 3 set.

  • Ryan Mossburg - Friday, November 12th, 2010 - 8:18 pm

    on secon thought the ledge seperated could be sweet if it is close kinda together

  • jacob merinar - Friday, November 12th, 2010 - 11:26 pm

    hmmm all that complaineing about its not at the same level for every one but what no bikes god i just love my city!!!!

  • jacob merinar - Friday, November 12th, 2010 - 11:43 pm

    “We want to have a well rounded park that provides a little bit of everything so nobody has to go out of town”alan
    cough cough

  • Alan (author) - Saturday, November 13th, 2010 - 12:20 am

    Yeah but you don’t count Jacob….

  • Washburn - Saturday, November 13th, 2010 - 1:08 am

    I agree with Mossburg about the bowl not being separated or being clover. Maybe for smaller tranny it would be a good idea to change up that crazy tranny in the street course with the love seat in the middle. If that was just a traditional 4 foot quarter, people could learn on that if they wanted and take it to the next level in the bowl. Also, if the bowl’s shape was changed up, there would be more room for Eric’s idea of the 3 stair rail manny pad thing. Works out for everybody. I don’t really see a need to shorten the height of the bottom ledge to a foot tall though.

  • Alan (author) - Saturday, November 13th, 2010 - 2:27 am

    I was thinking about a two leaf clover with a steam so to speak. A long 5ft mini with an open end so little kids can start out at the bottom. Then at the end of this steam, waterfalling into two larger bowls.

    I think that little pocket will be alright if we take out the pool stairs. I think most people will end up just using that to drop in and get speed to hit other stuff though.

    The height of those ledges are already 1ft each, well 1′ 2″ but same difference.

  • Eric Cunningham - Saturday, November 13th, 2010 - 8:54 am

    I agree with Washburn, I don’t really like the pool pocket that much, I think we should have a normal quarterpipe sot that, like he said, kids could come and learn on it, get some basic transition skills, and move up to the bowl. and even if the bowl wasn’t changed (Please change it! haha :P) if you just put a little more concrete to the left, there would be plenty of run for the little set.

  • jacob merinar - Saturday, November 13th, 2010 - 10:03 am

    ok thats kinda gay welp pburg sucks forever

  • Eric Cunningham - Saturday, November 13th, 2010 - 11:53 am

    Hahah I don’t really have a problem with bikes. As long as I’m not getting snaked all day, I’m good.

  • Alan (author) - Saturday, November 13th, 2010 - 12:31 pm

    No matter who is in the park or what they are riding on, you are going to get snaked. Especially in more creative parks like this where you can skate lines in any given direction.

    I think the pocket will work out just as well as a quarter pipe if we take out the stairs and don’t build the transition too tight or steep. I mean a bowl is a quarter pipe, just with extra quarter pipe around its sides.

    I was also thinking if the top point of the quarter pipe around the wave ramp wasn’t quite as triangle shaped it would make more room for kids to skate straight at the ends of it and basically skate a 1′- 3′ tall quarter pipe. (Think less upside down V shape and more upside down U shape)

  • Alan (author) - Saturday, November 13th, 2010 - 12:52 pm

    Holy crap, not that its really relevant to us but this park has some serious ledges.

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  • Bo Donaway - Saturday, November 13th, 2010 - 2:37 pm

    n thats a fun lookin park

  • Alan (author) - Saturday, November 13th, 2010 - 11:27 pm

    Eric, looking at these dimensions I actually think there would be room with the bowl as it is to build a 3 set there.

    http://www.parkersburgskateplaza.org/images10/firstdrafts/dimension6.pdf

    That shows 9ft from the end of the top ledge to the beginning of the little bank that goes up to the clover’s deck. If we extend that deck out the 9ft to the first ledge and start the 3 set and bank there, that would give you 9ft of run way, plus what looks like is at least 3ft of runway where the bank was, plus the little bit of deck space already allotted for the bowl, which looks like at least another 3ft.

  • Cole Bird - Sunday, November 14th, 2010 - 12:28 am

    I’m all for a kidney. Clover bowls are not much fun, I’ve never skated one I liked. Other than that this design looks great. I’m thinking maybe move the flat rail by the ledges and manual pads somewhere else away from that bank so there would be at least one basic flatrail that you could hit from flat instead of from the bank or to the bank, or it could be fun where it is, i dunno but i kinda think it should be moved.

  • Eric Cunningham - Sunday, November 14th, 2010 - 8:50 am

    Yeah, I suppose we could do that, but I was thinking more along these lines. (sorry, this was just a super quick throw-together haha)

    http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u277/EbMeister51/3setconcreted.jpg

    If we just put a little bit more concrete to that side over there (the grey) and angled the set, then there would be ample run room, without really having to change anything else.

  • Alan (author) - Sunday, November 14th, 2010 - 12:59 pm

    Well you gotta remember Eric, we only have so such money and so many square feet to work with, that’s why I suggested the other way. But then again, building up the deck another one or two feet there maybe just as costly as extending the deck around the bowl like you suggest.

  • Eric Cunningham - Sunday, November 14th, 2010 - 1:22 pm

    exactamente Señor.

  • Alan (author) - Sunday, November 14th, 2010 - 3:10 pm

    Excuse my beautiful art work here, but here is what I had in mind to combine Eric’s 3 set and a low city park rail deal.

    Both obstacles would have roughly 12ft of run way. I thought we could kind of squish the hand rail run way if we line up the bank on the 3 set because that would basically create a 24ft run way for it.

    The way this is laid out the 3 set steps would be about 3ft long between the ledge on the left and the manual pad on the right. I know that is kind of tight, but that would still make angling your run up to hit the hand rail from the left side (the rail would be on your right) even tighter.

    The top ledge from the 3 ledge bank could be built 1ft taller also, so it could skate like a mini drop ledge from the top deck (ledge would be on your left) it would start out 1ft tall and then end up 2ft tall end because the ground drops down with the 3 set.

    If we did something like this I would be worried the ending of the rail and ending of the china bank ledge would be too close together. Coming down the hand rail too fast and plowing into the china bank or vise versa

    Then I just thought on top of this would make a good place for a curved practice rail (this and the other hand rail both probably 1′ 5″ I would suggest).

  • ryan mossburg - Sunday, November 14th, 2010 - 8:05 pm

    sorry alan i strongly disagree with the round rail idea, round ledges are really sick, but round rails are exremely hard to hit on a skateboard, they are basically pointless. i know they are sick for bladers, but i really want the round ledge, i was to one who suggested it to micah at the meeting.

  • ryan mossburg - Sunday, November 14th, 2010 - 8:07 pm

    oh never mind, if you mean to move the round ledge up, i am cool with that. i didnt look at it closely

  • Alan (author) - Sunday, November 14th, 2010 - 10:33 pm

    Yeah, I don’t think we would have enough money to build another big ledge to go around the corner, but a rail should be pretty cheap. It could go right over top the ledge. With my arrow I was trying to say we may need to make the ledge wider.

  • jacob merinar - Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 - 7:16 am

    Is there going to be like anything over a 6 set?

  • Eric Cunningham - Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 - 7:20 am

    There’s a nine set Jacob

  • jacob merinar - Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 - 7:30 am

    and the city park rail rocks but the grind stops hert when you hit one

  • jacob merinar - Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 - 7:31 am

    kk thanks eric

  • Alan (author) - Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 - 7:32 am

    There is the hand rail there going down the six.

  • Alan (author) - Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 - 8:48 am

    What are you trying to say Jacob?

    “stops hert when you hit one”

  • jacob merinar - Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 - 4:44 pm

    lol my bad i was sayin when i was grinding up it i cought a grind stop and fliped over

  • Alan (author) - Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 - 4:51 pm

    Ohhhh, I still didn’t know what you were talking about at first, your talking about grinding the actual city park rail right? Your not talking about something in the design right?

  • Nick - Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 - 5:08 pm

    we need a little more sets, one a little higher than a three set. Other than that the park looks great. Everyone did a great job on this park. Im Pumped for skating it!

  • Eric Cunningham - Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 - 10:30 pm

    I like the idea of the bump to bar, but I miss my kicker gap! And I also thought the bump to bar was kind of limited just by itself, so I came up with this little design that wouldn’t be that much different from the current design that we could maybe use in the park! It’s still got the flat gap and everything, and it’s only a couple feet wider than the original, so I think it would be really sick if we could use it!
    Kicker gap with bump to bar

  • jacob merinar - Tuesday, November 16th, 2010 - 11:07 pm

    yea the city park rail is awesome besides the grind stops

  • Casey Hardman - Wednesday, November 17th, 2010 - 7:23 am

    I really like Eric’s idea there.

  • Alan (author) - Wednesday, November 17th, 2010 - 9:26 pm

    I don’t think we should make that section any wider than it already is, but if you want to use some of the space from the hole in the ground gap thing to make the bank wider for a hole in the ramp gap, I’d be cool with that. I think both are about 5ft wide and I think there would need to be at least 4ft next to the rail, so if you wanted to do a 3ft gap in the ramp and then a 3ft gap on the ground, that would work.

  • Eric Cunningham - Wednesday, November 17th, 2010 - 9:53 pm

    Idunno man, It looks like we could afford a couple extra feet to me. I think there’s a little bit of wasted space in there we could be using, but that’s just my opinion.

  • Chase - Wednesday, November 17th, 2010 - 9:57 pm

    i think if we made that gap it should be like / obviously not that steep but i think it would be nicer than if it were round

    I think we should get some ideas from this park

  • Zack Loscar - Thursday, November 18th, 2010 - 8:53 am

    Sweet, I’m totally stoked on it. I think I just might go all Rumplestiltskin and sleep ’til we can skate it that way I’m well rested.

  • Ryan Mossburg - Thursday, November 18th, 2010 - 11:41 am

    anybody like pole jams? oh and the threeset with the manny pad, we should put a euro beside the mannypad/ ledge, and make the pad extend a little ways on top, that way there is a little gap to ledge. those things are sweet

  • jacob merinar - Thursday, November 18th, 2010 - 10:22 pm

    we need a 50 foot frop for no reason

  • Jaron Joy - Saturday, November 27th, 2010 - 10:44 pm

    These plans right here are lookin DANK! Im lookin at a few things saying, I don’t know how to skate that.. why would we have that if no one knows how to skate it. but once we get the park we can LEARN to skate everything in the park! it will be all ours! I can’t wait! I’m Stoked!!!